Idaho Case Discussion: POI's, Suspects, and the Process of Elimination
Published at : January 03, 2023
In today's episode, we welcome criminal profiler John Kelly to the show to discuss what the process of elimination means, the ethical way to cover active and ongoing true crime cases, and we touch on the Villisca Axe Murders, the Idaho Case, and more!
00:00:00 Intro
00:02:05 Great Grizzlies
00:02:15 John Kelly's shoutout to his S.T.A.L.K.E team, more info here: https://johnkellyllc.com/
00:04:12 John Kelly refers us to The Captain, who exposes fraudulent content creators https://youtu.be/aNFQY8kgGBk
00:05:15 What is embellishing and how does it apply to an active investigation?
00:05:25 Cleared vs Elimination
00:09:22 Ego, Risk vs Reward, Slander
00:17:35 What to focus
00:25:50 Delphi POI's as examples
00:31:41 Who was "cleared" and when?
00:40:20 The surveillance footage of Maddie & Kaylee discussed
00:50:25 Would this person have practiced with a knife before?
00:55:50 Do you believe that this offender is part of the victim's inner circle?
01:06:55 Structured killer
01:09:42 We only know 5% of what LE knows in any active case
01:10:10 Does John Kelly receive inside info or is everything to make a profile from public information?
01:22:30 Who picked Kaylee and Maddie up at home on their way to the Corner Club?
01:24:58 The Corner Club photo
01:30:24 The system- what changed?
01:42:00 How would the killer possibly be behaving now?
01:52:16 Piquerism
01:56:11 John Kelly's book: https://tinyurl.com/8k53x4f3
02:00:00 John Kelly Profiler YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JohnKellyProfiler
02:05:00 Waffle time
02:05:45 Outro
Subscribe to Mr. John Kelly here: https://www.youtube.com/@JohnKellyProfiler
On November 13th, 2022, between 3 and 4 AM, four University of Idaho students were murdered in their off-campus college home at 1122 King Road (Queen Road) in Moscow, Idaho.
Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin were all stabbed, likely while asleep in their beds, while Kaylee's dog Murphy was in another room, and two unharmed roommates slept downstairs without hearing a sound.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:02:05 Great Grizzlies
00:02:15 John Kelly's shoutout to his S.T.A.L.K.E team, more info here: https://johnkellyllc.com/
00:04:12 John Kelly refers us to The Captain, who exposes fraudulent content creators https://youtu.be/aNFQY8kgGBk
00:05:15 What is embellishing and how does it apply to an active investigation?
00:05:25 Cleared vs Elimination
00:09:22 Ego, Risk vs Reward, Slander
00:17:35 What to focus
00:25:50 Delphi POI's as examples
00:31:41 Who was "cleared" and when?
00:40:20 The surveillance footage of Maddie & Kaylee discussed
00:50:25 Would this person have practiced with a knife before?
00:55:50 Do you believe that this offender is part of the victim's inner circle?
01:06:55 Structured killer
01:09:42 We only know 5% of what LE knows in any active case
01:10:10 Does John Kelly receive inside info or is everything to make a profile from public information?
01:22:30 Who picked Kaylee and Maddie up at home on their way to the Corner Club?
01:24:58 The Corner Club photo
01:30:24 The system- what changed?
01:42:00 How would the killer possibly be behaving now?
01:52:16 Piquerism
01:56:11 John Kelly's book: https://tinyurl.com/8k53x4f3
02:00:00 John Kelly Profiler YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JohnKellyProfiler
02:05:00 Waffle time
02:05:45 Outro
Subscribe to Mr. John Kelly here: https://www.youtube.com/@JohnKellyProfiler
On November 13th, 2022, between 3 and 4 AM, four University of Idaho students were murdered in their off-campus college home at 1122 King Road (Queen Road) in Moscow, Idaho.
Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin were all stabbed, likely while asleep in their beds, while Kaylee's dog Murphy was in another room, and two unharmed roommates slept downstairs without hearing a sound.
The only Grizzly link you need: https://grizzlytruecrime.com
New Caps: https://grizzlymerch.com/listing/gtc-cap
New Beanie: https://grizzlymerch.com/listing/gtc-beanie
2nd channel for more snark: https://www.youtube.com/c/GrizzlyGisela
Disclaimer: All Grizzly True Crime content is for adults only and may contain themes that some individuals find triggering, offensive or disturbing.
The intent is not to disrespect viewers or any individuals herein. Viewer discretion is advised. This Video is protected under copyright laws and violators will be prosecuted. No redistribution of this content is authorized on any other YouTube content creator's channel or any other platforms at any time without express legal consent or permission from Grizzly True Crime.
Stay Safe!
Gisela K.
#idahostudents #idahofour #idahohomicides #moscowidaho #grizzlytruecrime #truecrime #livestream
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